i am going to carve a greenman in basrelief… ever since i saw mark´s wonderful greenman i wanted to carve one too. i have done a greenwoman in my first year of carving, but the greenman was always still tickling me… now, i have the great oak board, i decided to finally carve him…

there are several greenman carvings i like, so parts of them i want include in mine, and, despite i am going to use an oak board and so oak leaves would be the natural to use, i want to carve acanthus leaves (hehe, quite an undertaking, as mark does carve the most beautiful acanthus leaves…) since they are great, and much more versatile to define the flow of the piece than oak leaves could … another inspiration are the greenmen in bamberg, they are quite stylised, but do give each of them, a very definite feeling… i want have some of these too… so, that is the initial motivation.

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11 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. ChuckT
    Sep 18, 2009 @ 06:03:28

    Oooh goodie!!! Really enjoying this Doris. Your design is reminding me a lot of the Bamburg Greenman (my favorite). Excited to follow along on this one. The photoshop overlay is a very interesting approach. Thanks!


    • dorisfiebig
      Sep 18, 2009 @ 07:07:05

      yes, indeed chuck, bamberg has wonderful greenmen, the one you like so much (and i too) and some otheres which are also very interesting… mine is a “combination” of all these, with a touch of “doris” … lol…thanks for commenting, i do very appreciate …


  2. ChuckT
    Sep 18, 2009 @ 13:43:31

    Oh – I didn’t realize that Bamberg (sorry I misspelled it before) has multiple greenmen. I’ve always only seen the one I used as my avatar when looking online. Are there photos online of the others? Or have you been there to collect your own photos for reference? I’d love to see them if so.


    • dorisfiebig
      Sep 19, 2009 @ 08:33:27

      no problem with the spelling, “burg” means “castle” while “berg” means “hill”, so both make sense… yes multiple, i know of three, but there might be more. the one you like is the most visible one.. i have seen them, but made no foto (somehow, i always carry the camera, but when i am there and admire the artwork i forget about taking fotos, and only much later i think, hey you did not take a single fotos, just looked, and looked…lol… here you can see (as first and third image) one of the others , that is that is a reproductions but good ones, and i need track down where i downloaded the foto of the other to give you the link. (i cannot post the foto here because of copyright) that is the one which mine leans heavily on.


  3. ChuckT
    Sep 19, 2009 @ 10:53:40

    Cool – thanks Doris! Heh – I do the same thing with the camera at times. So caught up in the moment that I forget to take any pics. My wife used to get made at me at family events – she was alwasy the one taking the photos and as a result was never in any. And *I* was the pro photograher – shot weddings for 10 years. I think that was why – at events as a participant I just didn’t want to shoot. Drove her nuts – and still does.
    Thanks again for the link.


  4. Howard Lobb
    Sep 27, 2009 @ 18:24:21

    Hello Doris… I didn’t pick out anything, and am still confused as the line of the mouth in the first photo’s seemed to have the mouth following the contour rotation of the head,in perspective. I thought. so the ever so slight adjustment you made was more to satisfy your inner question than a technical error, is my thinking. Good for you to take the risk, based on your gut feeling. When I carve the mouth on any face I observe intensely the transformation as the slightest sliver of wood removed does change the expression dramatically thus effecting the whole portrait, especially if it is a likeness, could mean the difference as we all use those same muscles in our own unique way to express our personality. I remember doing a pointillism portrait and two tiny, tiny dots made the difference, unfortunately in the wrong direction. All in all another great piece my friend. …. H


    • dorisfiebig
      Sep 27, 2009 @ 19:11:42

      hi howard… the adjustments were more than slightly, as now the corners of the mouth connected build a line paralel to the eyebrow. in the first picture they did not, but should… yes, i can folow your thought about the contour of the head, but that is depicted in the mouth rather by a small bow than by a tilt in the line through the corners of the mouth… maybe i am too perfectionist anyway, (i am sure that is the reason why my carvings take so much time) but it bothered me right from the beginning after i had cut the mouth. only, first i did not see what was wrong,,, so, i am glad how the mouth is now, it looks much more correct to me (and, as always i looked reference fotos, to check what i should see,,,)

      oh, yes ! you are very right, carving a mouth, for example, every sliver of wood removed changes the expression of the mouth. that is amazing, and i use this fact to find out what to do : when i am after a certain expression, i first cut away a chip which i think should go. but i cut it very very small…now, as you noted, this removal of the tiny chip changes already the expression, and most of the time, one can already see if it is going into the wished direction or not. if yes, i repeat the cut, and thereby strenghtening the faint occurence of the wished expression,,,if not, i try a different cut … sounds complicated, but once one get´s the hang of it, it is very useful… yes, i believe two points make a difference in a pointilism portrait…

      thank you, its great to hear your thoughts


  5. Edith Plazotta
    Oct 10, 2009 @ 00:20:28

    Liebe Doris…
    hab mir den Anfang und das Ende angesehen,
    eine wunderschöne, genaue Arbeit!
    Servus aus Kärnten Edith


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